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Re: [ARSCLIST] CD Longevity (was Vinegar syndrome audio tapes [ARSCLIST] Memorex CDs and more)
You're misunderstanding me. I don't believe for a minute that burned CD's can't sound as good as
manufactured. My objection is paying the same price for downloaded WAV-quality files as a whole
packaged CD, which is what the current business model for that service entails. With iTunes, you pay
a little bit less than whole-CD prices (except of course when the CD is on sale and you've bought
enough to get free shipping). But with iTunes, you get vastly inferior audio quality.
So here's my point, which I think you missed. This new service, of which Elliot Mazer is a
participant or principle, sells full 44.1/16-bit songs, but at a price that equals about $15 per
full album, same as street prices for CD's. My point was that that's not a market price for most of
us since, for $15 per album, we expect artwork, a case and a manufactured CD vs. hours of downloads
and burning our own CDs. In an ideal world, everything would be in print on regular manufactured
CD's, but one of the plusses of downloaded digi-files is that it's a way to unlock some of the vault
material in a distribution model where the copyright owners can make money on sales of a much fewer
I was not stepping into the manufactured vs. burned CD's debate at all. I'm curious how you read
that into my post.
-- Tom Fine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard L. Hess" <arclists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] CD Longevity (was Vinegar syndrome audio tapes [ARSCLIST] Memorex CDs and
At 01:21 PM 1/21/2006, Tom Fine wrote:
Elliot Mazer is involved in a venture that sells full 44.1/16-bit CD-quality files for prices more
akin to printed CD's. My only beef with that is, it's not market price. You're paying for a full
ride but getting no packaging, liner notes or aluminum/semi-permanent CD in the deal.
Tom, our best bet is to convince Mr. Mazer to use MAM-A or other gold phthalocyanine dye CDs which
actually may last longer according to recently published accelerated aging tests by Joe Iraci.
I agree about the album art missing, but please don't assume that burned CDs are inferior to
manufactured ones. At the very least, it's likely to be a non-issue, at the best, it's possible
that the burned CDs have a longer life expectancy.
Sorry to nit pick on this, but we have a huge PR problem started by the IBM data tape guy in
Germany. It ticks me off. FUD simply FUD from the company credited with causing the invention of
the term (check Wikipedia).