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Re: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo
I have a copy of the Bell Labs stereo experiments. Volume 1 was issued
by Bell Labs on its own label in 1979.
It is called EARLY HI-FI Leopold Stokowski/The Philadelphia
That is where they were stolen from if I am not mistaken. There was a
second volume as well with
different selections issued in 1980 of all Wagner. The originals now
reside in the National Archive.
My understanding is that these recordings were given away as premiums
for contributing to Public
Radio fund drives and were never commercially available. I have the
covers of both volumes but Volume
2 had a manufacturing error and contains the music from Volume 1. The
labels are right and they inserted
a xerox of the liner notes from Volume 1 to accompany the actual
selections included. I am in Philadelphia
and perhaps this arrangement was done exclusively for the Philadelphia
public radio station though I somehow
doubt it, as the liner notes say they are making these recording
available to "historians of science, music and
other interested people". Hope this helps.
Larry Friedman wrote:
Ironically enough, I recently went on a search for the Stokowski Bell Labs
recordings, and the only thing I found was that Iron Needle disk. I have
never bought anything by this label for obvious reasons, but I had no choice
here, so I did. The transfer is actually not bad. There is a certain bloom
to the sound that I liked. I couldn't help but wonder where they had stolen
the recording from.
Soon after I bought the Iron Needle disk (that has about half of the
recordings), I found a "private" disk of all of the Bell recordings pressed
by Theo van der Burg of the Netherlands. His site is
http://www.med.hro.nl/burtw/. I have nothing to do with Her Burg, except
that I am a happy customer of his. His product is extremely well done, very
clear and open, and he was kind enough to send the set out to me even though
PayPal had bollixed up the payment. I imagine the rest of his transfers are
equally as good.
I heard the Ellington "accidental" stereo disks a number of years ago. They
were pressed and released, but I have forgotten by whom. The sound was good
and certainly less distracting than the Fantasia sound, where each choir of
instruments keeps bouncing around from speaker to speaker. As I remember,
the Ellingtons had a very nice spread. I will try and find out on which
label they were transferred.
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The reference found on the web points to a CD on the Iron Needle label,
and for me that is not a thrilling recommendation. Has anyone heard this
CD and care to comment on the quality of the transfer?
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Roger and Allison Kulp wrote:
I have the Beecham centenary box,referenced on this
board,which looks good thanks for the link.While EMI
was behind the curve,in putting out thier first
Lps,and getting into stereo,they weren't the only
ones.Victor,put out both 33 "Lps",and were into
stereo,in the 30s.The Lps,were the famous "Program
Transcriptions',there are a few pop ones,but there is
also the Stokowski "Unfinished",which i own,and the
Toscanini Wagner Preludes,which i am actively
seeking,as well as a Beethoven #5,which i don't know
who did.(Like to get this too.)
As for stereo,I am aware of two systems.There is a
very cumbersome Victor system,that used synchronized
tandem turntables,with the left,and right channels,on
two different records.I am aware of recordings of this
type,by Duke Ellington,which I heard,when they were
issued on CD,several years ago.
And then there was Bell Telephone/Laboratories,with
thier famous Stokowski recordings,of 1931,issued on
private Lps,by Ma Bell,in 1979. Quoting from the liner
notes "Another Bell Labs innovationfrom this era was
stereophonic recording and reproduction.As the quality
of sound systems improved,some kinds of distortion
became noticeable.A.C.Keller and I.S. Rafuse concieved
a way of reducing them by seperating the high and low
frequencies and recording them on parallel tracks on
the same record.Later they fond a way of recording two
complete sound tracks in one groove and using a single
pickup to reproduce both tracks simultaneously with
minimum interference.From this came the recording of
two full range bands from left and right microphonesin
the same groove-the stereo technique perfected by
Keller and Rafuse in 1938.
But Stereophonic records needed needed expensive
pickups and two amplifiers and speakers,so it was
difficult to find a market during the depression era
of the 1930s.It wasn't until after World War II that
stereo recordings and equipment for the home became
I have a duplicate of one of these Lps next to me,in
a pile I want to stick on eBone.I can't get thier new
photo upload system to work on my Mac here.If anyone
can help me,please contact me offlist.
--- Steven Smolian <smolians@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The record was issued by Symposium, pressed from
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Strauss" <fbsdmd@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:51 PM
Subject: [ARSCLIST] Thirties Stereo
Interesting thread on the Classical message board
of BBC 3:
Frank B Strauss, DMD
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