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Re: [ARSCLIST] SSS Agfa [WAS: Ampex 456 and Shamrock 041 Manufacturing Specs?]
On another musical note the name is DUNCAN MORISON-He was the pre-war
pianist for Scotland's greatest Tenor Canon S.M..Pearl cd's have told to
correct the error in the notes in their admirable cd issue to no
avail.Beecham said-aways spell a name correct-how true.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Tommy Sjöberg <
> Hi all,
> I worked on a digitizing project for Universal music some years ago, doing
> several thousand tapes. I totally agree about Ampex 456 - the few we didn't
> bake sure smelled like they would need baking, but weren't shedding, just
> We never encountered a Basf tape that needed baking, and the same for Agfa
> with one, big exception and that is PEM 469, until they changed the
> formulation sometime around 1990. All earlier 469's were baked. A few 468's
> were also a bit sticky and were baked and then played fine, but if that was
> SSS I don't know.
> Tommy Sjöberg
> Folkmusikens hus
> Rättvik, Sweden
>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:06:06 -0000
>> From: "Prentice, Will" <Will.Prentice@xxxxx>
>> Subject: SSS Agfa [WAS: Ampex 456 and Shamrock 041 Manufacturing Specs?]
>> Hi Goran
>> Thanks for the info. Re. Agfa, we've had several examples of PE 49
>> (double play, 7") which have proven sticky. According to the numbers in
>> the green leader tape there were two manufactured bad batches at least,
>> both seemingly bought by us at the same time, circa mid-1988. The
>> numbers to beware of are 01041 and 15383. All other PE 49 batches thus
>> far have been fine.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>> [mailto:ARSCLIST@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goran Finnberg
>> Sent: 25 February 2009 12:38
>> To: ARSCLIST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ampex 456 and Shamrock 041 Manufacturing Specs?
>> Will Prentice:
>> > Responding to Richard's comment that "all tape
>> > manufacturers seemed to have created batches of
>> > tape which suffered from this [i.e., SSS]"
>> I have never ever seen any BASF tape ever go sticky shed.
>> BASF is one of the worlds biggest chemical companies.
>> They have always claimed that they had all the knowldedge in house
>> together with making all the ingredients in house.
>> So their position is that due to the above none of their tapes will
>> exhibit sticky shed as they knew how to avoid it.
>> AGFA, it is the same except for some batches of Agfa 468 during half a
>> year or so.
>> I have only seen one real of 468 go sticky despite having transferred
>> several hundred such reals over the years.
>> In contrast it is almost a given that any reel of Ampex 456 will go
>> sticky for sure.
>> And that is true over here since so far they all need baking.
>> Goran Finnberg
>> The Mastering Room AB
>> E-mail: mastering@xxxxxxxxx
>> Learn from the mistakes of others, you can never live long enough to
>> make them all yourself. - John Luther