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Re: This is not a Mac vs. Wintel thread!
- To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: This is not a Mac vs. Wintel thread!
- From: Charles Alexander <chax@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 14:21:44 -0700
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Dear Eric et al
Mostly I use the computer for writing, graphic design, and web design work,
and not for book arts. But I have a little I use one of those Wintel
machines, a Pentium 120 with 32 megs RAM, a 2 meg graphic card, a 17-inch
ViewSonic monitor, two hard drives which together give me 3.7 gigs of
storage, a 100-meg Iomega zip drive, a pretty good sound card and speakers,
and a Xante Accel-a-Writer 8300 printer. It works for me. I got
IBM-compatible long ago as it was cheaper for similar power and I liked the
idea of a machine which I could go inside and add memory and more myself --
I probably could have done that on a Mac, but people I knew who used Macs
at the time (1989) just didn't do such things.
On my Pentium I use a lot of Adobe Photoshop, Pagemaker, MS Word for win95,
as well as other programs. I have used a lot of Framemaker over the years
and love it, but it traditionally hasn't been serviced well by the company
that made it. Adobe bought it a year ago and perhaps it will get better,
although they seem to be marketing it to more of a niche market than they
do Pagemaker. For two years at a job directing Minnesota Center for Book
Arts I used Macs and a lot of Quark XPress, and I didn't like the Macs any
better than the IBM-compatibles, but not any worse, either. They all break
down, crash, get overloaded; and they all also do absolutely marvelous things.
What I have works for me, although I always want more power, more software,
more . . . yes, I know, I am greedy about these things. I love the web
design work as it, in many ways, doesn't take more. It takes more software,
but the images for web don't require as much memory as for print, ditto for
For book arts on computer I do pretty simple layouts and typography, and
the "art" part comes more in manipulation of the actual book pages.
>Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:06:35 -0400
>From: "Eric Alstrom (614) 593-1363" <ALSTROM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: This is not a Mac vs. Wintel thread!
>As the subject states, I don't want to turn this thread into a
>"my computer platform is better than your computer platform."
>What I am interested in, especially in light of the recent postings
>about printers and their system compatabilities, is what type
>of computers are book artists using in their book work, what
>programs you use, what kind of projects you do on the computer,
>the strengths and/or weaknesses of your platform for what you do,
>etc. Maybe this could even evolve into a tips and tricks thread
>if people are interested. Again, I am not wanting to start a
>flame war on which computer is better. I am interested in an
>informal survey of the things I listed above.
>To start: I am a cross-platform user. I own a Macintosh Centris 650
>(not one of the new PowerMacs) with 12 megs of memory -- which
>limits the size of my files, of course -- and an 80 meg harddrive --
>ditto the above sentiment -- with a Zip drive to store and run
>most of my book arts projects. I use PageMaker 6.0 to edit a
>monthly Mac Users Group newsletter and I am also slowly learning
>the rules (in order to break them, hee, hee, hee) of typography. I hope
>someday to be able to create my own texts, lay them out, print them,
>and then bind them. The computer comes into play during the middle
>two steps. Currently I am playing around with a couple of texts
>mostly just to see what I can do and what my computer can do. I
>own an Apple Stylewriter (inkjet) printer which isn't quite adequate
>for what I would like to print out, so I have been following the
>printer thread with interest. I am also beginning to get into Web-
>page design and use Color It! for my digital photo/artwork manipulation
> At work I use a Gateway2000. I'm not sure of the configuration
>mostly because I don't have anything to do with maintaining the
>machine or upgrading it and secondly because the Wintel world often
>times baffles me. At work I print labels for boxes and new bindings
>using Microsoft Works or Word. I also dabble a little bit in page
>layout, although I am stuck with Microsoft Publisher which I find is
>very difficult to use or produce anything more than a one or two page
> Although I feel comfortable using both platforms, I prefer
>the Mac for its ease of use (for me) and being able to configure
>programs and hardware and the availabilty of the software for page
>layout and graphic arts.
>So there is my life story about computers. Anyone else want to share
>their computer stories and likes/dislikes? Please, lets keep this
>civil and on topic to the book arts. Let's not resort to name calling.
charles alexander / chax press / chax@xxxxxxxxxxxx