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Re: cost of self publishing
- To: BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
- Subject: Re: cost of self publishing
- From: Austin Jones <prtsbyaj@EUREKANET.COM>
- Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 06:42:11 -0400
- Message-Id: <199905241049.DAA17108@palimpsest.Stanford.EDU>
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The Technology whereby Laser printing works - Xerography, puts the image on
the surface of the paper, then irons it for fusing. This process itself is
not permanent. Any item done by this process, be it copy machine or Laser
printer is subject to this phenomenon. It is possible to minimize the
peeling etc by choice of paper. Softer more absorbent papers do better. It
is still a fact that for permanent documents, ink either offset or
letterpress is preferred. This is a matter of esthetics as well as archival
A lot of things are done in the interest of time. One of those things is to
run it through a copy machine or Laser printer rather then actually print
My point is most of the time in book production is in the binding, marketing
and other post printing operations. Why not spend the extra minutes and do
From: Rupert N. Evans <r-evans4@STAFF.UIUC.EDU>
To: BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU <BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: cost of self publishing
>I beg to differ on the desirability of printing short run books on a laser
>printer. I spent many years as a letterpress printer, and until recently,
>still had letterpress equipment of my own.
>A laser printer with adjustable fuser temperatures will put a durable image
>on alkaline paper at a much lower cost than offset. At 1200 dpi the quality
>is better than many offset printers produce.
>If you have lots of time and money, by all means go letterpress.
>It is _not_ correct that high humidity will cause laser printing to peel
>off paper. Nor will temperatures bellow 120 degrees F affect laser
>printing. At temperatures above 300 degrees F, the result is not to have
>the image peel, but rather the toner will melt and block book pages.
>At 08:23 PM 5/23/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>>The idea of using a DTP software package is very much a necessity today.
>>I would take exception to the suggestion that anyone produce a final
>>product on a Laser Printer.
>>Work produced on these printers is acceptable for reproduction work but to
>>put the effort into duplicating a project by laser printer to be bound is
>>great disservice to the term BookArts.
>>The product from a Laser printer is temporary and will peel off the page
>>when the heat and humidity are right or wrong depending on the which side
>>the fence you are on.
>>If you want to do the work on a laser printer and take the results to a
>>Quick Print shop for a Product to be Bound, that is approaching the
>>way to do the job.
>>I am going to suggest that the correct way to do the project is to have
>>type set Letterpress, printed on old Letterpress equipment on archival
>>paper, then Hardbound using archival materials.
>>If the letterpress process is a bit much, then at least have the work
>>Printed, then Bind and trim the product properly.
>>Use the Laser printer for an original to take to the Quick Printer,
>>From: Jules Siegel <jsiegel@ACNET.NET>
>>To: BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU <BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>>Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 6:51 PM
>>Subject: Re: cost of self publishing
>>>From: Rupert N. Evans <r-evans4@STAFF.UIUC.EDU>
>>>Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 4:18 PM
>>>Subject: Re: cost of self publishing
>>>>If you _really_ want to self publish, it is relatively easy
>>>to do the whole job yourself if you have a laser printer and
>>>a word processor program. It helps if your laser printer has
>>>a duplex attachment.