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Re: Copyright on logos and theft of designs
- To: BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
- Subject: Re: Copyright on logos and theft of designs
- From: Austin Jones <prtsbyaj@EUREKANET.COM>
- Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:31:23 -0400
- Message-Id: <199905261438.HAA18340@palimpsest.Stanford.EDU>
- Sender: "Book_Arts-L: READ THE FAQ at http://www.dreamscape.com/pdverhey" <BOOK_ARTS-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
You raise some interesting and difficult issues.
Mostly the questions are answered by the agreement you have with your
If there is a contract to provide services of a well defined nature, then
payment is due if you delivered as the contract states.
If you are working on a time and materials basis, then payment is due for
If on the other hand, you are working on speculation, "Let this be a lesson
It is very difficult when starting in any business to maintain the "Get a
signature before work begins" attitude. It is the only way to survive in any
Abraham Lincoln made the definative statement when he said "A Lawer's time
are his Stock & Trade". Most any professional trade can be substituted for
Lawer in this statement and it would be true. An artist's vision and
perspective of a job are intelectual properties. That being said, it is now
the artist's responsibility to do whatever is necessary to protect those
"Get a Signature befor proceeding" must be a way of life.
Good Luck - Been there, Done that.
>I know that this is not a strictly book arts question, but also know =
>that there are a lot of arts practitioners out there, involved in =
>various forms of artmaking. We have just started working together and =
>are slowly discovering how difficult and untrustworthy clients out there =
>can really be... Perhaps some of you can offer us some advice
>Of late we have been doing some corporate design - logos, corporate =
>stationery etc - we'd like to know how a little freelance designer can =
>protect herself against people stealing work.
>Two instances : we designed a logo for a company that was stock =
>exchange listed. The stock exchange agency got hold of it, after it had =
>been accepted by the client and "stock exchanged" it, changing the type =
>used as well as the position of the logo on the letterhead, which does =
>change it considerably. Do we have a say in this, at all?
>And then, we were briefed and presented on a job for the design of =
>corporate folders. After three full scale presentations, the client =
>finally decided not to go with us, or with our printer, but are using =
>all our ideas and the route which we collectively brainstormed. We are =
>claiming a rejection fee, but do we have any other rights in matters =
>Hope so. It seems we are learning as we go, but the learning curve does =
>seem to be quite violent.
>Robyn and Peta