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Re: Copyright on logos and theft of designs

You raise some interesting and difficult issues.

Mostly the questions are answered by the agreement you have with your

If there is a contract to provide services of a well defined nature, then
payment is due if you delivered as the contract states.

If you are working on a time and materials basis, then payment is due for
services rendered.

If on the other hand, you are working on speculation, "Let this be a lesson
to you".

It is very difficult when starting in any business to maintain the "Get a
signature before work begins" attitude. It is the only way to survive in any
business venture.

Abraham Lincoln made the definative statement when he said "A Lawer's time
are his Stock & Trade".  Most any professional trade can be substituted for
Lawer in this statement and it would be true. An artist's vision and
perspective of a job are intelectual properties. That being said, it is now
the artist's responsibility to do whatever is necessary to protect those

"Get a Signature befor proceeding" must be a way of life.

Good Luck - Been there, Done that.



>I know that this is not a strictly book arts question, but also know =
>that there are a lot of arts practitioners out there, involved in =
>various forms of artmaking.  We have just started working together and =
>are slowly discovering how difficult and untrustworthy clients out there =
>can really be...  Perhaps some of you can offer us some advice
>Of late we have been doing some corporate design - logos, corporate =
>stationery etc -  we'd like to know how a little freelance designer can =
>protect herself against people stealing work.
>Two instances  :  we designed a logo for a company that was stock =
>exchange listed.  The stock exchange agency got hold of it, after it had =
>been accepted by the client and "stock exchanged" it, changing the type =
>used as well as the position of the logo on the letterhead, which does =
>change it considerably.  Do we have a say in this, at all?
>And then, we were briefed and presented on a job for the design of =
>corporate folders.  After three full scale presentations, the client =
>finally decided not to go with us, or with our printer, but are using =
>all our ideas and the route which we collectively brainstormed.  We are =
>claiming a rejection fee, but do we have any other rights in matters =
>like this?
>Hope so.  It seems we are learning as we go, but the learning curve does =
>seem to be quite violent.
>Robyn and Peta

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