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FW: Archival: Inkjet versus Laser



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Of the generally available commercial products, only the very newest Epson
printers are archival.  Their latest is now said to be archival to several
hundred years. The 1270 is said to be good for about 70 years. The others,
including the any Epson printer introduced before their recent technology
change s  , don't even come close: more like 1-2 years before significant
fading. I wouldn't use any of the regular inkjets for anything other than
proofing and short-lived documents.

There are third party inkjet ink sellers that are more reasonably archival,
but usually you must purge your system of OEM inks and use only their very
expensive inks from that point forward .

Toner, the stuff of laser printers, is basically carbon and iron which is
fused to the paper. Very good longevity. I don't have any personal
experience with color lasers, so I can't address their archival
capabilities. My company manufactures them, however, so I'll ask the people
who know.

Just in case you're curious-this isn't an ad since I don't think anyone on
this list is in the market for our stuff ;  and I'm a systems engineer, not
a sales rep- Oce is the world leader in high speed continuous form printers,
and also has a complete line of printers for office and architectural uses.
Our stuff costs a whole lot more than I could afford ($30,000 to about
$1,000,000)  to use if I didn't have access to it. Must of it is highspeed
computer stuff, up to 1,000 pages a minute, but the office systems group
(not the division I work for) makes a duplex printer/copier called the 3165
that has amazing print quality. I'm printing 35lb. bond 100% cotton fiber
paper on this printer for some book projects. The quality is just
exceptional. I'd buy one if I had the money. I'm lucky I have access to one.
I think a lot of Kinko's have them in case you want to check it out for
different paper tests.

David Goen
Oce Printing Systems, USA

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