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Re: [BKARTS] Writers and authors



I've done quite a bit of research into Copyright Law as book collector and
publisher, and would like to note that while the majority of artwork in a
museum is not copyrighted, it is still protected by personal property laws.
You can't simply take a picture of a painting owned by someone else without
their express permission.  Of course, if the piece is in the public domain,
i.e. no longer protected by Copyright laws, it would be legal to paint a
reproduction of the work.  And often in museums, you see artists sitting in
front of a painting, self-producing a copy.

Karl

----- Original Message -----
From: "jeff morgenthaler" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: Writers and authors

> if the art in question is in the public domain (most anything published
> prior to 1951 and certain other items) you are spending money
unnecessarily.
> even tho the museum has the original, it does not have a copyright on
> anything published pre-1951. Of course if you are copying a postcard, the
> postcard (the image on the card as opposed to the actual art shown on the
> card) may be within copyright, and you would have to pay to use the image.
> (Ever wonder why museums don't want you taking photos of their art?)
> Nonetheless it is sometimes a good idea to pay a "use fee" to maintain
good
> relations with an institution that is important to you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Book_Arts-L [mailto:BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> Bertha Rogers
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 5:30 AM
> To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Writers and authors
>
>
> No, you can't make artist's books using any other artist's material,
without
> asking
> permission. That includes postcards of art that is in museums. We often
use
> art from
> museums for our book covers, and we pay a fee to the museums, usually
around
> $300-
> 400 for nonprofit publishers, publishing no more than600-1000 copies.
> Bertha Rogers
>
>
> On 19 Apr 2003 at 9:42, DanceMarathon1@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Perhaps my statement was unclear about working with the writings of
> authors
> > for
> > artist books. My intent was that while it is acceptable to work with
> other's
> > poetry and text, one SHOULD get permission. As I wrote, it is
> <<appropriate
> > and
> > courteous to request permission from the author, or publisher, as it is
> the
> > property
> > of the author and most likely copyrighted.>>
> >
> > It's surprising to see exhibitions of student art work
> > which include copyrighted images. With image banks, stock photos,
> > clip art, postcards, etc., so easily available, many believe that
> everything
> > is
> > up for grabs.
> >
> > In a Terms of Agreement form I use based on The Graphic Artist Guild's
> > Guidelines,
> > it states that my illustrations are my property, copyrighted with the
> Library
> > of Congress,
> > and may not be scanned, manipulated, or used in any other way than as
> > originally
> > discussed without my written permission.
> >
> > And by the way, what about postcards? Can artist books be made from
> postcards
> >
> > without the permission of the photographer?
> >
> > Still dancing,
> > Alice
> >
> > ALICE SIMPSON
> > NEW YORK
> > THE DANCING CHANCELLOR:<A
HREF="http://tudorhistory.org/news/hatton.html";>
> http://tudorhistory.org/news/hatton.html</A>
> >
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