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Re: [BKARTS] AIC stuff



I agree, but the certifying agency should be completely independant
of a membership specific organization like the AIC.  I have no
problem with the idea of certification, just the way it is being
suggested and persued by the AIC to further their hidden agenda of
underserved blanket credibility and elitism. Of course my only
experience is with the Book and Paper sub-group, but I'm guessing my
view might hold true for other specialties.

Imagine a group of heart surgeons at one, large specific hospital
deciding that their own criteria should be used as a basis of
certification of all doctors practicing elsewhere.  While at the
same time their mortality rate is significantly higher than that of
other, non-member hospitals.

Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter D. Verheyen" <verheyen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:         Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:52:47 -0400
To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:      Re: [BKARTS] AIC stuff

> But what's going to stop those skilled,non-AIC, conservators from taking
> the test, passing, and getting their slice of the pie? The process is
> supposed to be open to all. That's why it behoves all those not in AIC to
> get involved in the process by whatever is appropriate/possible. If
> certification becomes a reality, and those not in AIC choose to opt out of
> the process and ultimately not apply, then in large measure any
> consequences of that, such as not getting a job (contract or otherwise)
> because they're not certified will fall on them. I realize that sounds
> aweful, but that's what I see the consequence as, and that's why I feel
> it's important not simply reject it as out of hand. Remember, the vote was
> whether, or not, to go ahead with developing a certification plan, i.e. the
> FIRST step.
>
> At 10:53 AM 9/15/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >Yes Peter, I understand what you're saying but as things seem to be going
> >(AIC certification) an organization might get funding, and a "certified"
> >conservator might do the work, but if the AIC is the certifying agent I
> >can guarentee that much of the work performed will STILL BE of inferior
> >quality, despite the certification.
>
> The converse can be true, too. There are also many conservators in AIC who
> are top rate. The reality is, for conservators in all disciplines, AIC is
> THE professional organization, for better or worse. That's also why when
> giving out work, one asks for references, asks to see examples and asks
> questions, lots of them.
>
> >I've worked with conservators that came through programs succesfully,and
> >would be prime candidates for certification according to the AIC
> >direction, but at the same time some of these people should'nt be allowed
> >to touch a book of importance.
> >
> >Bruce
>
>
> Peter
>
>
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