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Re: [BKARTS] AIC Stuff



I've got to apologize, these two emails were sent out earlier, but our
ISP has been having problems the past two days.  The messages are a
little out of step with the discussions

-Doug

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas Sanders
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 3:55 PM
> To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: AIC Stuff
>
> I've just spoken with AIC membership, to try to track down some
figures
> of private vs. institutional members.  As stated in an earlier message
> of this thread, the AIC comprises a wide variety of members, though it
> must be said, the Book and Paper specialty group is greatest in
number.
>
> There is another specialty group called CIPP (Conservators in Private
> Practice), which I am told had a membership of 418 last year.  This
> compares to a bit over 3000 for total membership (or 13%, so obviously
> some private folks see benefits of AIC membership ).  I was told there
> are no reliable statistics of the ratio of private vs. institutional
> conservators.  As with most statistics, these can be taken with a grain
> of salt- the argument can be made that AIC attracts institutional
> members at a greater weighting because it is often the institutions that
> cover the cost of membership dues.
>
> For another thought,
> I graduated from a paper conservation course in England in 1996, which
> graduates on average about seven paper conservators a year.  I would say
> that our course was heavily weighted towards institutional conservation-
> in terms of the venues we toured, the issues we discussed (storage,
> preventative conservation, etc), the guest lecturers and there was
> pressure -though often subtle- that an institutional job was better than
> a private one. Since finishing, I have had the pleasure of working in a
> variety of venues- both institutional and private.  I must say though,
> as I believe Ed did, that private-practice people are generally exposed
> to far more treatments in a year, and treatments of a greater
> complexity-  I attribute this to the fact that, in my opinion, museums
> have items in better condition and, to generalize, prevaricate and
> debate endlessly about the approach to treatment.  Though I am an AIC
> member, I often read of treatments in the journal where one is left with
> the feeling of 'so what' why has this merited publication? Sometimes
> it's more 'much ado about nothing'
>
> I appreciate that as a course-trained conservator, I am perhaps more
> aware of scientific theories, chemical concepts, new, innovative
> treatment options, etc. than someone who has trained in a workshop- I am
> humble enough though to admit that my hand-on experience in no way
> compares to someone who has seen thousands of items pass through their
> shop and studio, has leather under their fingernails, and years under
> their belt.  Our book-arts forum allows that empirical experience to be
> shared, to some extent.  I think a problem many book people seem to have
> with AIC stems from the fact that book conservation is grouped with
> paper conservation.  In the past bookbinders were apprentice trained.
> Nobody really in any great number trained to be a paper conservator-
the
> job was done by Painting restorers, print dealers, private collectors,
> or the odd binder or two.  We now have a specialty group for both with
a
> divided history- one half long and structured, the other newly-created
> and institutionally trained.
>
> People want recognition from peers and public, and this is what they
> feel AIC certification will give them.  I have my doubts as well.
>
> Doug Sanders
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Levy [mailto:levybooks@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:00 PM
> > To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: AIC Stuff
> >
> > "I think that most
> > conservators and restorators practicing today are apprentice-trained."
> >
> >
> > Actually, I think that most conservators IN PRIVATE PRACTICE, are probably
> > apprentice trained.  I also think that most conservators from PROGRAMS, that are
> > currently employed, are in the institutional venue.  I may be wrong- but I don't think I
> > am.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >

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