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Re: [BKARTS] Flat pages for binding classes



Yes, Judith, having your printer cut 11 x 17 paper in half will result in
8.5 x 5.5 folded pages or signatures with the grain in the correct
direction, parallel to the spine.

Look in this list's archives for the great deal of information on paper
grain, accumulated over the past ten years. I don't have the time to repeat
all the good advice you will find in the archives. Please learn how to tell
grain direction of all materials used in the construction of a book and why
it's important. Please continue to ask questions and look for a printers who
know how and why they must pay attention to the grain direction of text
paper and cover stock.

 Betty

 ===----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Kerman" <kerman@xxxxxxxx>
To: <BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [BKARTS] Flat pages for binding classes


> Thanks, Betty and Abi, for raising the issue of grain. Frankly, I'm not
> sure - although I make bookworks, I don't have a lot of experience with
> serious handbinding. I'm aware of grain as an issue, but not first-hand,
> so to speak.
>
> Since 1992, I've had our books printed at our university's print shop
> on their high-end xerox machine, and most of the bindings have been
> saddlestitch - most of the books have been chapbooks designed to sell
> inexpensively at poets' readings, and none of them are limited editions
> or fine bindings. I'm not sure that the grain is always the right way,
> but they score the covers before folding and the pages, which are
> hand-folded, seem fine.
>
> The oldest books I have that were done this way (as opposed to offset)
> are from 1994, and both the toner and the paper are in mint condition.
> Of course, that's not 100 years, and I do recall discussions on this
> list about possible problems with toner adhesion with xerox or laser!
> Also, since the standard format for the majority of the books was 8x7
> rather than 5.5x8.5, the printer cut the books out of larger sheets. Now
> I'm using one of the better POD short-run companies, and they are doing
> perfect bindings, so it's probably not a relevant concern.
>
> Doing flat sheets in addition is a new idea, and I wanted to float it
> with you all, so it's very useful to have the fine points raised.
> Mayapple Press is a publishing operation. I do my own design and layout
> up through prepress but we haven't been doing any of our own printing up
> to now. With my new laser printer, I will probably do very short runs
> in-house. The flat sheets would be done this way, too, new sheets rather
> than pages left over from previous printings. Our chaps are one
> signature, so I'd have to rearrange the pagination to make signatures
> for handbinding.
>
> I've just pulled out one of the resume sheets, and it does seem to be
> long-grain. If I bought paper in 11x17 sheets from our printer and have
> him cut it, would the grain be the right way? I could certainly arrange
> to do this.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Judy Kerman
> Mayapple Press
>
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