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Re: [BKARTS] Using 'non-bookcloth' fabrics

Thanks for the response Robert, definitely helped me out with some ideas
and I'm going to test it out later this week.

THe good thing is that I'm going to use fabric over the a bookcloth spine,
so the spine won't be an issue.  I'll just use PVA for that as well.

I'm pretty excited now to play around.  Should be a good time.



> 1. When using PVA, does it not seep through and create a "plastic"
> coating/looking fabric?  Knowing what it makes traditional bookcloth
> look like when it happens to get on it, makes me worry about this.
> Use the PVA sparingly. I use very little PVA, with no webbing. Let it
> dry for a few minutes until tacky, making sure that there are no pools
> of glue or globs anywhere - it has to be a thin consistent layer on the
> boards. Use a piece of manila or cardstock on the spine to support the
> fabric in the grooves. Lay the fabric lightly on the tacky glue, and
> press firmly with the palms of your hands. This keeps any glue from
> seeping out of the pores of the fabric, and keeps it looking crisp.
> Done right, you end up with a gorgeous book. Done wrong, you end up
> with PVA seeping through the fabric, leaving dark spots. It takes some
> practice to get a truly professional look. (my friends loive it when I
> mess up though, they get free copies of our books).
> 2. When using the heat applied webbing, is this archival?  In sewing
> applications I believe this is to be a temporary solution until a
> stitch is made, how would this hold up over time?
> I stopped using the stuff early on. I found that the adhesive is not
> consistent, and tends to bubble or wrinkle in spots - not worth the
> hassle. A little care can stop this from happening, using just PVA as
> mentioned above. I don't know if its archival or not, ,but can tell you
> that the extra thickness can be a blessing and a curse. I prefer a
> piecee of cardstock covering the spine when casing in, which keeps the
> fabric sturdy in the grooves and against the board. I press the cover
> seperately from the book until its dry, then case in the textblock, and
> press it in the bookpress. Its a longer process, but a bit of patience
> saves a lot of frustration later on.
> 3. Has anyone used wheat paste with such fabrics?  I've experimented
> with it a bit making paste papers, but it is supposed to be much more
> "fabric friendly" in that it doesn't discolor the fabric?
> We do use wheat paste,  quite regularly. PVA has a stronger, longer
> lasting effect, though, and the paste can often be far too wet to
> bother with. It also takes longer to get the "tacky" effect - and can
> warp the boards faster than a drybrushed PVA.
> In Lvx,
> R.L.Angus
> Octavia & Co. Press
> Calgary, Canada
> OctaviaOccult.Com
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