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Re: [BKARTS] ...... books to be leather-treated



T.A. Brown,

Thank you for stepping out with your reassurance, note on the power of
threads and approval to lurk.
All were gratefully received, C. Carroll

> From: Timothy Arthur Brown <t.a.brown@xxxxxxxxx>
> Organization: The Musar Corporation
> Reply-To: Book_Arts-L <BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:47:42 -0400
> To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [BKARTS] ......  books to be leather-treated
> 
> Christina,
> 
> This is a great list. There are occasionally rude exchanges and
> sometimes national politics gets too much attention, but generally
> speaking the posts on this list are very helpful. I have found the
> posting of workshop announcements especially helpful since this has
> given me the opportunity to attend some hands-on learning experiences
> while meeting some of the people I've read on this list. Another way in
> which this list has been helpful to me is in learning about suppliers of
> various book-related materials. Most of the time I merely observe in
> silence (i.e. lurk), but since I've recently stepped into the thread
> about leather treatment, and since your reservations seem to have been
> inspired by this thread, I've also chosen to reassure you of the value
> of this list.
> 
> Hope you enjoy your time here.
> 
> T. A. Brown
> Franconia, New Hampshire USA
> 
> 
> Christina wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> What was the focal point of this, originally?
>> Hello, I'm new to the book arts world and this is my first "list serv"
>> experience. Imagine!  I'm intrigued, is this what they are about?
>> 
>> I am an artist seeking inspiration in my new path to marrying words and
>> image and introducing myself to new materials and thinking.
>> At a LA book arts conference, I scooped up cards, met people and asked for
>> internet groups to mire myself in. I sought out a book arts-related
>> opportunity to be a sponge, to soak up, to look, be inspired, learn and not
>> fear asking neophyte's questions.
>> 
>> Am I in the wrong place? I ask this honestly, as I said, I'm new.
>> And any advice on more appropriate groups for me would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Cheers and thank you,
>> Christina
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Edward Stansell <craftbookbinding@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: Book_Arts-L <BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:07:35 -0700
>>> To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [BKARTS] ......  books to be leather-treated
>>> 
>>> Group,
>>> 
>>> Some of you have been not only fair but kindly and
>>> cordial. However, the general tone of the group is
>>> that of rudeness and a desire to denigrate. One would
>>> think that your education would elevate you above such
>>> nonsense but apparently it has not. You were, likely
>>> absent when manners were taught. If it gives you such
>>> childish delight to throw verbal rocks, have at it. I
>>> only pity the people who have to put up with you on a
>>> daily basis.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> --- Bruce Levy <levybooks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> personally I use snake oil.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Edward Stansell" <craftbookbinding@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: [BKARTS] ......  books to be
>>>> leather-treated
>>>> Date:         Tue, 31 May 2005 11:18:50 -0700
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When Coca-Cola or Pepsi wants me to buy their
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> product
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> or
>>>>> Olay wants to sell one of its cosmetic products,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> they
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> do not tell you the ingredients. If you want to
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> know
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> more about it, buy some. Test it. I have already
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> said
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> that it comes with a money back guarantee. If you
>>>>> don't like it, return the unused portion and your
>>>>> purchase price will be refunded. I don't believe I
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> can
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> do better than that, short of giving you the
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> formula
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> so you can make it yourself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed
>>>>> --- William Minter <wminter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 27, 2005, at 11:15 AM, Edward Stansell
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> I used what knowledge I possessed of chemistry
>>>>>>> and leather and  developed our formula. It has
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> successful in that I have used it successfully
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> as
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> a few others, ever since. Its lack of
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> popularity
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> due only to the lack of marketing. If I had
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> kept
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> entirely secret, only I would know of it. But
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> that
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> would not negate the fact that it does indeed
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ******************************
>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>> But again, you have not provided any information
>>>>>> about your product ---
>>>>>> mostly an idea of the ingredients. If you truly
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> have
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> a great product,
>>>>>> many of us do not know about it. Therefore, it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> is
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> still a "secret" to
>>>>>> "only" you and a few of your customers.
>>>>>> I certainly would be interested in knowing more
>>>>>> about your product and
>>>>>> your claims.
>>>>>> Bill Minter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> William Minter Bookbinding & Conservation, Inc.
>>>>>> 4364 Woodbury Pike
>>>>>> Woodbury, PA  16695
>>>>>> 814-793-4020
>>>>>> Fax:   814-793-4045
>>>>>> Email:    wminter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> 
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